John MÜLLER (Mueller) Photographic Collection

This project began in March 2021 and is a work in progress, last edited 28 May 2022.  It is for the purpose of displaying a collection of over three hundred photographs owned by John MUELLER of Paechtown, near Hahndorf, South Australia.

This is one of several pages (see below) on 'Adelaide Hills LocalWiki' which will eventually display all of the photographs in the 'John MÜLLER Collection'.  Also included is additional information related to the individuals and families associated with the photos as compiled from various sources by the author.

 If you have original or copies of photographs of any of the folk related to our ancestors below (before 1920, house, farm or folk etc) an opportunity to photograph or scan them would be really appreciated.  This is the same for artefacts, books, Bibles or memorabilia that has been passed down from those early years.  Nothing needs to leave your home, and with your agreement they can be shared on this website for all to enjoy. 

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Janis Haynes, I am the author of this article

I am an amateur historian/genealogist and contributor to articles on this Adelaide Hills LocalWiki.  My attention focus's on any and all things to do with the passengers of 'Zebra' which arrived here on the 29 December 1838.  I write on their marriages, homes, farm lands, movements, interactions and stories, and where possible I base it around the many photographs and records that are still available today in descendants homes.  By adding 'Janis Haynes' to the 'Search Adelaide Hills' space you will find all of my articles, some of which are a work in progress.  

I also have a website for my none German ancestors 'https://rosecottagefamilyhistory.com', which has been a bit neglected of late.

I love working with Tony Finnis on his site because whatever story I am working on I can add and change it whenever I discover something new.  Tony has given me a lot of editing help and he stresses that the content is always up to me, my pages are my own to creatively preserve the images that I can now share with you all.  My pages are the result of people like Beryl BENHAM, Glenn LIEBELT, John MÜLLER and others who have generously allowed me to scan their photos in their homes, and then allowed me to share those images through my articles.  Feel free to copy any photographs and reference them as normal. 

 

 

This article requires a lot of work still,  last updated 18 June 2022, , JBH.

 

Descendants of Daniel KUCHEL, Johann George KUCHEL & Anna Dorothea SEIFFERT, Anne Elizabeth STEINBORN & Johann Christian LIEBELT, Anna Dorothea GREISER & Johann Gottfried LUBASCH.

Table of Contents 

  Introduction: This article begins with Liebelt's marriage to Kuchel and their son's marriage to a Lubasch.

 Background where did they come from, when did they arrive?

 

 Dorothea Kuchel (1811c-1895) and Erdmann Kuchel (1812-1869)

 

 Dorothea & Erdmann's children and grandchildren

 1.   ├──  Johann Louise KUCHEL  1840-1922

Married Eduard David GREGOR 

Their children were:

         1.1  ├──  Wilhelmine Henrietta GREGOR  (1861-1945)

                     Marriage records not found, children with August HOLST

         1.2  ├──  Carl August Lebrecht GREGOR  (1863 death date not found)

                     Married Bessey PHILLIPS (1834-1914)

         1.3  ├──  Maria Louise GREGOR  (1865-1953)

                     Married William WOODLAND  (1863-1937)

         1.4 ├──  Friedrich Wilhelm GREGOR  (1868- 1919)

                     Never married.

         1.5 ├──  Johanna Louisa GREGOR  (1870-1947)

                     Married Albert SOAR (1868c -1949)

         1.6 ├──  Gottlieb EdwardGREGOR  (1872-1951)

                     Married Edith Mary COLLINS (1880-1948 )

         1.7 ├──  Lydia ElizabethGREGOR  (1873-1957)

                     Married Henry Martin BERRY (1873-1914)

         1.8 ├──  Emma Dorothea GREGOR  (1876-1928)

                     Married Graham Benjamin MARSH (1869-1930)

         1.9 ├──  Anna Auguste GREGOR  (1878-1958)

        Married Alfred James BURFORD (1875-1957)

         1.10 └──  Alma OttilieGREGOR  (1880-1957)

                     Married Freidrich Wilhelm 'Bill' BRAENDLER (1878-1964)

 2.   ├──  Johanna Dorothea KUCHEL   1842-1926

Married Johann Wilhelm August GUST

Their children were:

         2.1 ├──  Anna Louise GUST  (1867 death date unknown)

        Married John Allan Barry WILSON (b unknown).

         2.2 ├──  Friedrich Wilhelm GUST   (1870 death date unknown)

        Never married.

         2.3 └──  Heinrich August GUST  (b1873 death date unknown)

        Never married.

 3.   ├──  Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL  1846-1923

Married Johanne Louise LIEBELT

Their children were:

              3.1   ├──  Anna 'Bertha'  KUCHEL  1872-1938

       Married William COLLINS 

              3.2  ├── Gustav Adolph KUCHEL  1873-1931

       Married Louise Martha BRAENDLER

              3.3  ├──  Johanne Caroline KUCHEL  1875-1876  

              3.4  ├──  Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL  1877-1951

       Married Marie Bertha SCHMEISS

              3.5  ├──  Gottfried Alfred KUCHEL  1879-1967

       Married Rose Therese Irene HENNINGSEN.

              3.6  ├──  Maria 'Emma' KUCHEL  1881-1923

      Married Wilhelm 'Albert' EY

              3.7  ├──  Pauline Hulda KUCHEL  1883-1957

       Married  Edward Otto MUELLER.

              3.8  ├──  Martha Mathilda KUCHEL  (1886-1887).      

              3.9  ├──  Johanna Louise KUCHEL   (1888)

       Married Ernest  NELSON.

              3.10└──  Johann Friedrich Wilhelm KUCHEL   (1891-1960)

       Never married.

 4.   ├──   Johann Friedrich Hanfried KUCHEL  1850-1909

Married Emma KUBERN

Their children were:

        4.1 ├──  Johann Friedrich KUCHEL  1898-1898.

        4.2 ├──  Caroline Dorothea KUCHEL  1899-1920

        4.3 ├──  Albert Edward KUCHEL  1901-1963

      Married Adeline Ivy Laura Maud PENNERY.

        4.4 ├──  Alma Othilie KUCHEL  1902-1974 

      Married Herbert Wilhelm ZEUNERT.

        4.5 ├──  Ida Clara Auguste KUCHEL   b1907

        └──  Clara A KUCHEL  (.    )

      Married WOOLLEY ???

 5.  └──   Anna Elizabeth KUCHEL  1854-1932

Married to Rudolph Richard Edmund DIEDERICH

Their children were: 

        5.1 ├──  Ida Clara Auguste DIEDERICH

      Married Ludwig Theodore Harry SCHARENBERG

        5.2 └──  Wilhelm Paul DIEDERICH

      Married Kath NEWCOMBE

 

Unidentified Kuchel photographs

 

 References and Comments

 

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1.  Introduction

  • Daniel Kuchel is John Müller's 3rd great-grandfather and Anna Greiser and Gottfried Lubasch are John's 3rd great-grandparents.
  • Daniel Kuchel is the author's 4th great-grandfather, Anna Greiser and Gottfried Lubasch are the author's 4th great-grandparents

 

This article begins with a Kuchel marriage c1822 to a Liebelt and their son's marriage to a Lubasch in 1847 whose 1st child is Johanne Louise Liebelt b1847.....

....earlier the Kuchel sister married a 1st cousin Kuchel in 1838 and their 5th child, Gottlieb, b1847 married Johanne Louise Liebelt in 1871

In 1838 Maria Elizabeth Kuchel b1878 and her husband Johann 'Christian' Liebelt b1801 were living in the small Prussian, Brandenburg village of Nickern, with all of their 3 children, aged 14, 12 and 5 years.

 

Christian's younger brother Johann 'Christoph' Liebelt and his wife Anna Wolf  lived in the same village with their 3 children aged 7, 4 and 1 year old.  Christian's older brother Johann 'Gottfried' Liebelt,  his wife Anna Pohle and their 3 children aged 14, 5 and 3 years lived in a village 2.3 kms to the east, called Schönborn.  

In 1823 Maria and Christian Liebelt had the first of their 3 children:  Johann Gottlieb Liebelt, 28 Dec 1823 - 11 May 1893[No ], photo below, who was 14 years of age on the 'Zebra' in 1838. Gottlieb's future wife, Johanne Karoline Lubasch 22 April 1827-30 May 1902, photo below, [03]  from Rissen, was an 11 year old on board the same vessel.[No. ] 

 

In 1847 they were married in the Schoolroom at Hahndorf by Pastor Kavel [04]  (SAGHS marriageRecords), and both were buried in the Liebelt plot of the Hahndorf Cemetery.

  Maria Elizabeth b1878    Dorothea b1811 younger sister of Maria Kuchel

Johanne Karoline Lubasch daughter in law of Maria, mother of Johanne Louise Liebelt. 

 

 

This village was also where Christian, Christoph and Gottfried's  parents lived:  Johann 'Christoph' Liebelt senior and his wife Anna Elisabeth Steinborn.   In 1838, when all of these Liebelts's above, came to South Australia, the parents were aged 62 and 68 years of age. [01]

 

Maria Elizabeth, and her sister Johanne 'Dorothea' Elizabeth Kuchel were possibly born in the village of Lochow, just over 3kms, S.E. from Nickern, where their father, Daniel Kuchel lived. [02]

Johanne Louise Liebelt, Maria's granddaughter  Dorothea's son Gottlieb, became husband of Louise in 1871

 

                                                                        In this article we will look at Louise and Gottlieb's children after first exploring Gottlieb Kuchel's 4 surviving siblings.

 

 

Liebelt, Kuchel & Lubasch in Hahndorf and Friedrichstadt

 

'Reliably stated to be Johann Christian and Anna Elisabeth Liebelt'   Liebelt Family History Bk page 44

Christian & Elizabeth's home 106 Main St, Hahndorf. Photo courtesy of the Hahndorf Academy, JBH collection.

 

Map: Hundred of Kuitpo showing Section 3903 which is to the north of the Echunga / Hahndorf road, and below Liebelt Road.This identifies Section 3903 which Gottlieb & Karoline settled on in 1850 & the location of their home, still standing in 2022.

 

Johann Gottlieb Liebelt 1823-1893 and Johanne Karoline Lubasch 1827-1902. The photos are identical in background and all were taken by Charles Niesche, see page 46 Liebelt Family History. Photo Hahndorf Cemetery JBH 2020.

Coloured photograph courtesy of Elizabeth Barnes, genealogist.  "Gottlieb and his wife were among the earliest settlers at Friedrichstadt"  He purchased 80 acres, Section 3903 in the Hd of Kuitpo in 1850 and built his first home of mud, straw and slabs, this home stood until 1912 when it was destroyed in a bushfire.

Home on right::

"The brick home built by Gottlieb.......an all brick home - one of the first in the Hahndorf area to be built entirely of brick."  Liebelt Family History Bk page 47

Karoline Lubasch and Gottlieb Liebelt's first child was Johanne Louise Liebelt, 15 June 1848-29 March 1940, and she along with her husband,,  Johann Gottlieb Kuchel, 21 April 1846-31 October 1923,  became the common denominator for this article. I  began with this couple because they appear in  many of the photographs in John Mueller's Photographic Collection.  Usually they are at the centre of a group photo surrounded by any number of their nine children and their partners.

Louise Liebelt and her husband of 52years,  Gottlieb' Kuchel, were both born near Hahndorf, South Australia, and were married in 1871, by Pastor Strempel, in the St Michael's Lutheran Church, Hahndorf.  [05]  From now on they will be referred to as 'Louise' and 'Gottlieb'.

 

Where did the LIEBELT's, LUBASCH's and KUCHEL's  live in Brandenburg, Prussia in 1838?

Brandenburg, Prussia 'Prince George' arrived 1838. [09] 'Zebra' arrived 1839 'Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel' arrived 1845

 

 

 

 


 

When did they arrive?

The 'Prince George', 'Zebra' and the 'Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel' known as the 'Patel'.

Louise's parents had come out as children to the Province of South Australia, her mother, Karoline Lubasch and her father, Gottlieb Liebelt were both children on the 'Zebra'.  Their villages in Brandenburg, Prussia were separated by only 4.5kms, if they took the route through the fields. (Illustration 'C')  Quite likely they already knew of each other before emigration.  Their adventure together, began with their families on river barges down the Oder, through the waterways of bustling Berlin and up to the Port of Hamburg.  [06]  Such sights they never could have imagined, followed by a four month sea voyage in 1838. [07]. This brings us almost to the  last pieces of information about the Liebelt / Steinborn / Liebelt / Lubasch connection but other articles in this series will reveal more photographs and information. 

Karoline Lubasch and Gottlieb Liebelt's first child was Johanne Louise Liebelt, 15 June 1848-29 March 1940, and she along with her husband, (photo left),  Johann Gottlieb Kuchel, 21 April 1846-31 October 1923,  became the common denominator for this article. I  began with this couple because they appear in  many of the photographs in John Mueller's Photographic Collection.  Usually they are at the centre of a group photo 

Louise Liebelt 1848-1940                    Gottlieb Kuchel 1846-1923surrounded by any number of their nine children and their partners.  

Louise Liebelt and her husband of 52years,  Gottlieb' Kuchel, were both born near Hahndorf, South Australia, and were married in 1871, by Pastor Strempel, in the St Michael's Lutheran Church, Hahndorf.  [05]  From now on they will be referred to as 'Louise' and 'Gottlieb'.

Gottlieb's parents on the other hand, were adults when they arrived in South Australia.  His father Gottfried 'Erdmann' Kuchel 1812-24 Sept 1869, was 33 years old and his mother Johanne Dorothea Elisabeth Kuchel 1811-16 May 1895, 34 years of age. They had 4 children when they arrived in September 1845 on the 'Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel',  (I will refer to this ship as 'the Patel').  Gottlieb was their first, of four more children, who were born in their new country.  As Gottlieb grew up he would have heard his parents talk of the ships that arrived in 1838 because his paternal grandparents (Georg Kuchel & Anna Seiffert) & three uncles (17 year old Gottlieb, 20 year old Friedrich & 23 year old Samuel) were all passengers on the 'Prince George'. [08]

 

Johanne 'Dorothea' Elizabeth Kuchel (1811c-1895) and Johann Gottfried 'Erdmann' Kuchel (1812c-1869) 1st cousins

'Erdmann', was the eldest of the four boys and would have been 26 yrs of age when all the activities were happening in preparation for his 55 & 51 year old parents & his brothers Samuel, Friedrich and Gottlieb to begin their ocean voyage. For whatever reason, Erdmann, did not accompany his parents in 1838 on the 'Prince George'.  However he had married around that time (c1838) to his first cousin, and Dorothea Kuchel, had four baby daughters born in  1840, 1842, 1843 and 1845, named Louise, Dorothea, Eleonore and Anna Rosin.  As seen above Erdmann and his family were on the Patel in 1845 and 2 yr old Eleonore did not survive this voyage, and possibly, Anna Rosin, had been born but also died on the ships voyage. [13](KUCHEL, Ships List).   

 When Gottlieb's parents' (Erdmann and Dorothea) & his two older sisters (Louise and Dorothea)  arrived in 1845, his uncles (Samuel, Friedrich and Gottlieb) had been in South Australia for six years.  His grandfather (Georg Kuchel  1783-1845,  had died seven months earlier (in South Australia)  but his grandmother (Anna Dorothea Seiffert 1787-1860) was 59 yrs of age and was, possibly, living with one of her three sons, Samuel, Friedrich or Gottlieb.  Erdmann and Dorothea's first born child in South Australia was Johann Gottlieb (1846-1923), followed by Johann Gottfried b1848 who did not live to see his second birthday, he was followed by Johann Friedrich known as 'Hanfried' and  lastly a daughter Anna Elizabeth b1854 when Dorothea was 43 years of age.

Erdmann Kuchel  was the eldest of 3 brothers, there details are:

  • Johann Samuel Kuchel 1815-1900 married 1839 Johanne Dorothea Klenke 1817-1891, 21 years of age on 'Zebra'.
  • Johann Friedrich Kuchel 1818-1887 married Johanne Rosina Seidel 1825-1893, 18 years of age on 'George Washington'
  • Johann Gottlieb Kuchel 1821-1902 married 1848, Maria Elizabeth Bartel 1826-1884, 14 years of age on 'Zebra'.

Samuel and Dorothea were among the earliest couples to marry after arrival in Hahndorf in 1839, under a gum tree 'later consuming parrots at their wedding breakfast (No ). Annie Luur Fox.  Dorothea Klenke had travelled from Kay in Brandenburg, Prussia, (very close to Lochow), with her parents, on the 'Zebra'.  [Was it her older sister b1793 Johanna Karaline who was the first wife of Georg 'Kaysher' PAECH'?]  Unfortunately her 51 year old farm labourer, father, Christian Klenke was among the 11 deaths on the voyage, and he was buried at sea, leaving his 49 year old widow Anna Elisabeth Klenke nee Gierke (1789-1869) to manage alone in the new country. (NO...)  (D Schubert Kavel's People).  https://localwiki.org/adelaide-hills/Hahndorf_pioneers%2C_were_your_ancestors_on_the_%27Zebra%27%3F.  When Anna Klenke died she was living with her daughter Dorothea and son in law Samuel Kuchel at Kirchenbergen and she was buried at the St John's Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, a pioneer of 31 years.  (Kuchel 1838-1970 page 4)

By 1845 when the 'Patel' arrived Samuel and Dorothea Klenke  had  3 small children Anna Dorothea Henrietta b1840 and Johann Gottlieb b1843, Johann Gottfried b1844.  Friedrich nor his younger brother Gottlieb had not yet married.

Erdmann's younger brother Samuel Kuchel 1815-1900 married Johanne Dorothea Klenke 1817-189


 
   
Samuel Kuchel photo by Edmund Diederich, who married Samuel's niece. Death notification of Samuel Kuchel. 'A colonist for 62 years'.  Photo on left was used on this card above

 

Dorothea Kuchel and Erdmann Kuchel's 5 children born between 1840-1854, 3 sisters and a brother.  2 sisters did not survive infancy 1843 & 1848. 

1├──  Johann Louise (1840-1922) - 5 years old on Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel married 26 May 1859, Ev Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, Eduard David GREGOR (1835-1910) had 10 children between 1861-1880.

2├──  Johanna Dorothea (1842-1926) - 4 years old on Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel married 28 February 1867, St Paul's, Hahndorf, Johann Wilhelm August GUST (1834-1914), had 3 children between 1867-1873. 

3├──  Johann Gottlieb (1846-1923) - born Kirchenbergen near Hahndorf, S.A. married 4 May 1871, St Michaels Church, Hahndorf by Pastor STREMPELJohanne Louise LIEBELT (1848-1940), had 10 children between 1872-1891.  

4├──  Johann Friedrich Hanfried (1850-1909) - born Hahndorf, S.A. married 30 December 1897, St Paul's Hahndorf,Emma KUBERN (1862- ). had 6 children between 1898-1908c.  

5└──  Anna Elizabeth (1854-1932) - born S.A. married 19 April 1891, Residence of Bride, near Hahndorf, to Rudolph Richard Edmund DIEDERICHhad a daughter followed by a son in 1889 and 1895.

             

Family of Gottlieb Erdmann Kuchel blamed for his premature death, 1869 at Mt Barker, S.A.

'It appears that in Germany Gottfried (Erdmann) had followed the trade of tailor in the army.  His pair of tailor's shears remained in the family's possession until about 1940 ...... when the family had reason to write to relatives or friends in Germany it was usually Gottfried who composed and wrote the letter.'  'Little is known of Gottfried's (Erdmann) activities in South Australia, but it can be presumed that he was engaged in farming and also in the trade of his brothers, that is vine dressing and wine making.  During hard times the brothers had to take whatever work was available.  It is recorded that in 1858 a vine dresser was paid 10s 6d for 3 1/2 days work.  Gottfried (Erdmann) (perhaps because he was the eldest) had the best education of the four sons of Johann Georg Kuchel.  When the family had reason to write to relatives or friends in Germany it was usually Gottfried who composed and wrote the letter.'  [14]

Erdmann died in 1869 as a result of an accident at Mt Barker, when he fell from his horse, two years before his first son, Gottlieb, and his first Australian born child, was married. On that spring evening when Erdmann fell from his horse, near the 'Oakfield Hotel', he apparently appeared intoxicated, (or was it as a result of a head injury and cerebral bleed) and was taken inside the hotel to sleep the night.  His sons, Gottlieb 23years and  Friedrich 19 years (photos on right) came with a cart to collect him the next day, Sunday. While he had no obvious injuries, he was very quiet and sleepy. Sometime between Sunday and Tuesday his wife and one of his lads thought he 'seemed unconscious' and help was called. [15]. So a Mr de Valluois of Balhannah was called and prescribed 'Seidlitz powder and Epsom salts, and ordered cold water to be applied to the head and chest'.   Over the next few days till Friday he became unresponsive, neither eating, drinking or talking, and was probably incontinent, until he ceased breathing altogether. [16]

"The deceased came to his death from the effects of a fall from his horse on the 20th instant; that the relatives of the deceased are to blame for not having called in the assistance of a duly qualified medical man, such a one being in the immediate neighbourhood; that the deceased was improperly treated."  [17]

​'On 20 September, 1869, Gottfried was badly injured in a fall from a horse in Mount Barker (near the old primary school on Adelaide Road) and he died on Friday the 24th.  At 4pm on Sunday the 26th, he was buried by Pastor A. Fiedler in the cemetery of the St Johannes Lutheran Church at Hahndorf (at the rear of the manse of the present St Paul's Lutheran Church)' [18]  (KUCHEL pge 6)

Erdmann was 57 years of age, had been in South Australia for 24 years and his wife Dorothea was about the same age.  Unfortunately there are no photographs of Erdmann found to date.

Oakfield Hotel:  A Scottish farmer, Lachlan Macfarlan had built the 'Oakfield Hotel' in 1861 close to the road in Mount Barker and he supplied passing traffic and the  coach trade on its way to the eastern states via Wellington on the Murray River. This hotel was later incorporated into the summer residence of Robert & Joanna Barr Smith, known as Auchendarroch. [19]  The original stone work of the 'Oakfield Hotel' can still be determined.  In 1869 Lachlan was 63 years of age, all of his 11 children had been born, and from the following year he leased out the Hotel to other publicans. [20]  Lachlan's wife, Anna Dorothea Luise was 13 years of age on the 'Zebra' in 1839, and one of the 7 daughters of Gottfried Lubasch, [21]  Waterloo Veteran and first hotelier in Hahndorf. [22]  The young Gottlieb Kuchel (1846-1923) was soon to marry (in 1871 to Johanne Louise, 1848-1940) the niece of 'Luise'.

Courier 1869 Gottlieb Kuchel, 1846-1923, 5th child and first son born in South Australia of Erdmann and Dorothea Kuchel. Friedrich Hanfried Kuchel, 1850-1909, 7th child of Erdmann and Dorothea Kuchel.

Dorothea survives her husband Erdmann Kuchel, by 26 years.

        

"His widow (Dorothea) lived the latter part of her days in a house opposite the present Hahndorf Cemetery.  She died on 18 May, 1895, at the age of 85.  A hearse was not needed, as she was carried across the road from her home and laid to rest near the cemetery gates.  For a good while afterwards her dog was often found lying on the grave."  [23] (KUCHEL pge 6).

 

Erdmann's  children's situation 1869 when he died at 57 years of age

In 1869 when Erdmann died so unexpectedly and in such terrible circumstances his children were:  

1.├──  Johanna Louise Kuchel:  29 years of age,  had been married for 10 years and was well pregnant with her 5th child to husband Eduard GREGOR.

2.├──  Johanna Dorothea Kuchel:  27 years of age, had been married for less than 2 years and had a young daughter to her husband August GUST.

3.├──  Gottlieb Kuchel:  was 23 years of age, married two years later  in 1871.

 4.├──  Johann Friedrich Kuchel known as 'Hanfried':  19 years of age (did not marry until he was 47 years of age). 

5.└── The youngest sibling was Anna Elizabeth Kuchel: 15 years of age (did not marry until 37 years of age).

 

Which of the above children can you identify in this family photo taken in front of the 'Kuchel' home, Kirchenbergen, near Hahndorf.

 

'Kuchels'

Cropped photo of left family group.
This photo is only identified as 'Kuchel's'. On page 7 of the 'Kuchel' family history book this photo is replicated and identified as 'Gottfried's family approx 1890'. Compare this photo from below. I believe all 4 adults above are seen on the left

If the above photo was taken in 1890, then Erdmann had died 21 years previous.  I am identifying the individuals on left, as follows:

  • Far right:  Johann Friedrich Kuchel known as  'Hanfried'  b1850, would then be 40 years of age, unmarried (married 1897).

  • 3rd from right:  Gottlieb Kuchel b1846, would then be 44 years of age, had been married for 19 years and had 9 of his 10 children. In 1890 his sons were 17 years, 13 years  and 11 years of age. His daughters would have been 18 years, 9 years, 7 years, 2 years, 

  • Front row:  Older woman with head scarf, Dorothea Kuchel b ca1811, would then be 79 years and she died 5 years later in 1895.

  • The 2 young men smoking pipes on the far left have the same type of hat as the boy on the far right, (also smoking pipe), 2nd from right, and very similar to Gottlieb's hat.  I cannot identify these three lads.                

  • The woman on the left of Dorothea, has a baby on her lap, is that her husband on her left?  Almost certainly this woman is in the photo below standing behind Dorothea with a shawl around her shoulders.    

  • This woman with the hair parted in the middle may well be Dorothea Kuchel's youngest child Anna Elizabeth 1854-1932 and the younger sister of Gottlieb and Hanfried.                                                                                  

  • Anna Elizabeth did not marry until 1891 but she had her first child to Edmund Diederich  (Hahndorf photographer) 12 October 1889.

 

Summary of the home above by Lothar Brasse, Architect.    

The cottage is a simple, rudimentary structure consisting of roughly finished saplings for its framing, with a top and maybe bottom (?) plate. The posts might have been dug into the ground to give it lateral stability. There doesn't appear to be any intermediate horizontal members apart from the door and window heads (this differs from the double intermediary 'noggings' found in better quality Fachwerk structures found in Paechtown for example), and any diagonal bracing members are not shown. The relatively thin walls,  probably only 4 inches (100mm)- suggests that the infill of  clay and chaff mix (daub) is held in place by straw 'ropes' woven between vertical or horizontal twigs (wattle). The visible door head looks as though it was joined to the door posts using mortice and tenon joints.

The entire clay plaster finishing coat was then lime-washed.  The casement window (possibly with highlight ? behind the striped curtain) seems quite advanced for this 'humble' cottage and typically found in 'better'  German houses - in this case 6 or 8 paned, with glass and any metal fixtures such as hinges, bolts and latches probably imported from Germany by the likes of merchant H.L.Vosz - who had arrived here on board the Alfred in 1848 and later traded in Hindley and Rundle Streets. The trussed roof may have been thatched, shingled or even clad with corrugated iron which had begun to be  imported into South Australia from England since 1850 (Solomon's Queens Theatre was one of Adelaide's first to be roofed with it).

 

Dorothea Kuchel and Erdmann Kuchel's 5 children born between 1840-1854, 3 sisters and a brother.  2 sisters did not survive infancy 1843 & 1848. 

1├──  Johann Louise (1840-1922) - 5 years old on Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel married 26 May 1859, Ev Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, Eduard David GREGOR (1835-1910) had 10 children between 1861-1880.

2├──  Johanna Dorothea (1842-1926) - 4 years old on Herjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel married 28 February 1867, St Paul's, Hahndorf, Johann Wilhelm August GUST (1834-1914), had 3 children between 1867-1873. 

3├──  Johann Gottlieb (1846-1923) - born Kirchenbergen near Hahndorf, S.A. married 4 May 1871, St Michaels Church, Hahndorf by Pastor STREMPELJohanne Louise LIEBELT (1848-1940), had 10 children between 1872-1891.  

4├──  Johann Friedrich Hanfried (1850-1909) - born Hahndorf, S.A. married 30 December 1897, St Paul's Hahndorf,Emma KUBERN (1862- ). had 6 children between 1898-1908c.  

5└──  Anna Elizabeth (1854-1932) - born S.A. married 19 April 1891, Residence of Bride, near Hahndorf, to Rudolph Richard Edmund DIEDERICHhad a daughter followed by a son in 1889 and 1895.

 

                                                    Dorothea & Erdmann's  3 daughters and two sons                           

'Grandmother Kuchel'

No photo of Erdmann found today.

Below: 'Grandmother Kuchel, Gottlieb Kuchel, Hanfried Kuchel'.  And probably their youngest sister Anna Elizabeth Kuchel who married Edmund Diederich.

Below: 'Grandfather Kuchel and sisters.  This photo was taken by Gottlieb's brother in law, Hahndorf photographer, Edmund Diederich.

This slide identifies the 3 sisters of Gottlieb as seen in the photo on the left.  Mrs Gregor, Mrs Gust and Mrs Diederich.

 

      

 

Regarding this group photograph immediately above, in brown sepia:  In order to confirm the identity of the 2 males and 2 females in this group photograph I have noted that their mother 'Grandmother Kuchel' has a similar headdress to one that the woman on the far left grey framed Edmund Diederich photograph, is wearing,  both women I believe are Dorothea Kuchel 1811-1895.  Dorothea, died in 1895, after 26 years of widowhood. By this time Gottlieb was 49 years of age, and with his wife had had all of his 10 children, his brother 'Hanfried' was still single and not to marry for another two years. Youngest sister Anna Elizabeth had given birth in 1889 to Ida Clara Augusta, had married Ida's father, Edmund Diederich, two years later (1891) and gave birth to their last child, Wilhelm Paul,  at 41 years of age, 5 months after her mothers funeral.  It is possible that the Diederich family and 'Hanfried' may have remained living with Dorothea  at her home  and possibly both siblings were caring for her as she aged, she died at 84 years.

 

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1st child of:  Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth Kuchel and Johann Gottfried Erdmann Kuchel

1.  Johann Louise Kuchel 1840-1922 married in 1859 a Gregor

 

"The eldest daughter (Johanne Louise) married Eduard David Gregor.  It is said that they farmed the Kirchenbergen property for a while and then lived the rest of their lives at Sailors Gully, near the Onkaparinga River.  The descendants of their children still live own the district"  [No. 25]  (KUCHEL pge 6)

Eduard David Gregor (1835-1910) was the son of Christian Dorothee Neumann  b1799 and Johann Christian Gregor b1795,  Eduard had an older sister Henriette Wilhelmine (1826-1833) and a brother Wilhelm August (1828-1828).  His parents were married 14 May 1822, Karge, Karge, Bomst, Posen, Prussia. [No 26]  

Louise Kuchel 20 years and  Eduard Gregor 23 years of age, married 26 May 1859 Ev Lutheran Church, Hahndorf.  

Louise Kuchel and Eduard Gregor's 10 children born between 1861-1880

1.1├──  Wilhelmine Henrietta  (1861-1945) - marriage records not found, children with August HOLST  (b unknown) had 3 children between 1884-1890.  

1.2├──  Carl August Lebrecht  (1863 death date not found) -  married 13 April  1886, PM Chapel, Woodchester, Strathalbyn, Bessey PHILLIPS (1834-1914), had 1 child in 1899.

1.3├──  Maria Louise  (1865-1953) - married 4 April 1888, PM Church, Mt Barker,  William WOODLAND  (1863-1937), had 3 children between 1893-1902.

1.4├──  Friedrich Wilhelm  (1868- 1919) - never married.

1.5├──  Johanna Louisa  (1870-1947) -  married 19 September 1893 Registry Office, Adelaide,  to Albert SOAR (1868c -1949) had 2 daughters in 1893 and 1895.

1.6├──  Gottlieb Edward (1872-1951) - married 13 June 1900, St Michael Church, Hahndorf, Edith Mary COLLINS (1880-1948 ) had 4 known children between 1901-1914) [PHOTOS BELOW]

1.7├──  Lydia Elizabeth (1873-1957) - married 26 September 1900, St Michael Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, Henry Martin BERRY (1873-1914) had 2 daughters in 1901 and 1910.

1.8├──  Emma Dorothea (1876-1928) - married at 43 years of age, 31 May 1919, St Margarets, Woodville, to 50 year old Graham Benjamin MARSH (1869-1930). No children.  

1.9├──  Anna Auguste (1878-1958) - Sailors Gully, Nairne, married 27 December 1899, Residence of her parents, Hahndorf, Alfred James BURFORD (1875-1957) had 1 daughter in 1902.

1.10└──  Alma Ottilie (1880-1957) - married 13 February 1906, St Michael Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, Freidrich Wilhelm 'Bill' BRAENDLER (1878-1964) had 2 daughters 1910 and 1913.

 

                                                                          Gregor                                   

 

   

Is this Louise and Eduard Gregor with possibly their first born Wilhelmine Henrietta Gregor 1861-1945?

                

'Gregor'  This photo is unidentified

These children on an animal fur rug may be two small girls of Louise and Eduard Gregor.  The little girl on the right is wearing the same dress as the small girl in the above photo, top right.  The background in this photo is the same as the one above on the left.  The style of dress is also very similar with the ribbons at the neck, like their mother.  -  Could this be Wilhelmine Henrietta 1861-1945 and younger sister Maria Louise 1865-1953

This photo could be Louise and Eduard Gregor with possibly two of their children, possibly a girl and a younger boy. Could this be Wilhelmine Henrietta Gregor 1861-1945 and Carl August Lebrecht Gregor b1863?

 

 

1.6. Gottlieb Edward Gregor 1872-1951, 6th child of Louise Kuchel and Eduard Gregor, in 1900 married a Collins

 

Edith Mary CollinsEdward (1872-1951) aged 28 years,  married 13 June 1900, St Michael Church, Hahndorf, Edith Mary Collins (1880-1948 ) aged 21 years.

The bride Edith Mary Collins's  parents Susannah Barrett and George Collins, had 11 children and Edith was number 8, the others were: Alfred James b1863, Caroline b1864, Ellin Jane b1867, Louisa Rebecca b1870, William Charles 1872-1942, Edward George b1874, Rosina Eliza b1875, Lilly Matilda b1875, Arthur James b1878, Edith Mary, and the 17 year , 'Herb'  Herbert Richard 1883-1957, who was the best man as seen below.  

The groom, Edward Gregor's  mother is the older sister of Gottlieb Kuchel, who's 6th child, Maria 'Emma' Kuchel (1881-1923), the bridesmaid, hence Emma is a 1st cousin to Edward Gregor.  Emma later married Wilhelm Albert Ey in 1812.  Emma is the great Aunt of John Muller the owner of this photo collection.

 'Mrs Gottlieb Gregor'.          

The groom, Edward Gregor is sitting on left, his hat (that he holds in his lap in the photo with his bride) is on the ground on the far right.  The bride, Edith Collins is in the background on the right.  The groom with his male friends has a bow tie on but not so in the photo with his bride.   Note the background to the photo is the same as the two wedding photos above.

                                                                               

                              Gregor / Collins wedding 13 June 1900

'Gottlieb Gregor wedding' Photo by E Diederich 'Emma Kuchel Herb Collins' Photo by E Diederich Photo by E Diederich
 

This slide identifies the relationships between those in this wedding party above.

This slide identifies two of the brothers in this photo by using their parents 1909 Golden Wedding photo which can be found below.

 

1st child of:  Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth Kuchel and Johann Gottfried Erdmann Kuchel continued.

1.  Johann Louise Kuchel 1840-1922 married in 1859 a Gregor, here their Golden Wedding

Below is the photo of the parents  Louise Kuchel aged 70 years, Eduard Gregor aged  73 years and 7 of their daughters and 2 of their 3  sons in 1909 at their Golden Wedding.

Gregor, 26 May 1909 Golden Wedding  

Their 6th child, Gottlieb Edward Gregor, 2nd from left in back row above, was married 13 June, 1900, and his wedding photos are above.  

    

              

      'Gregor - Golden Wedding'  taken same day as one on the right.

 

                     

'Gregor' Eduard Gregor 73 years old in this photo died the next year, 24 November 1910.

 

 

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2nd child of:  Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth Kuchel and Johann Gottfried Erdmann Kuchel

2.  Johanna Dorothea Kuchel 1842-1926 married 1867 to a Gust

 

"On 28 February, 1867, the second daughter, Johanne Dorothea, married J.W. August Gust at St Paul's Hahndorf.  He farmed at Friedrichstadt (on the road from Hahndorf to Echunga) and later moved to Mount Gambier.  They had two sons, who has no issue, and one daughter Anna, who married Jack Wilson.  Most of their descendants live in the Mount Gambier and Portland areas."  [No 25] KUCHEL page 6.      

Johanna Dorothea Kuchel 26 years  and Johann Wilhelm August Gust 30 years of age, married 28 February 1867, St Paul's, Hahndorf.  [No.26.}

 

Dorothea Kuchel and August's Gust's 3 children born between 1867-1873

2.1├──  Anna Louise   (1867 death date unknown) - married 5 February 1897 St Michael Ev Lutheran Church, Hahndorf,  John Allan Barry WILSON (b unknown).

2.2├──  Friedrich Wilhelm  (1870 death date unknown) - never married.

2.3└──  Heinrich August (b1873 death date unknown) - never married.

 

                                                                                                             Gust

 

 

Original photographs here and below of the same house 'Gusts'. 

This photograph, 2 males, 1 is a youth.

I

Is the male with the beard in both of these photos August Gust?

This is the only other 'Gust' photograph in the collection and this male is not yet identified.

 

This photograph 2 young girls, older woman and 2 males.

 

 

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3rd child of:  Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth Kuchel and Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL

3.  Johann Gottlieb Kuchel  1846-1923 married in 1871 to a Liebelt

 

Johann Gottlieb Kuchell born Kirchenbergen near Hahndorf, S.A. married at 25 years of age on 4 May 1871, St Michaels Church, Hahndorf by Pastor Strempel to 23 year old  Johanne Louise Liebelt 1848-1940, they  had 10 children between 1872-1891. [No 27]

 

                                                                                                 Gottlieb Kuchel and Louise Liebelt

 

Johanne Louise Liebelt
Johann Gottlieb Kuchel

Louise Liebelt and Gottlieb Kuchel  both born in South Australia, are the great-grandparents of John Mueller who has preserved this large collection of historic photographs.  Louise is the 1C3R of the author and Gottlieb is her 1C4R.

Louise Liebelt and Gottlieb Kuchel's 10 children born between 1872-1891

3.1   ├──  Anna Bertha  (1872-1938) married 13 September 1899, at residence of parents, nr Hahndorf, William Charles  COLLINS  (b 1872-1942  had 8 children between 1900-1913. 

3.2  ├──  Gustav Adolph  (1873-1931)  married 6 August 1903, St Paul's Church, Hahndorf, Louise Martha BRAENDLER  (1879-1944), had 10 children between 1905-1920. 

3.3  ├──  Johanne Caroline  (1875-1876)

3.4  ├──  Johann Gottlieb  (1877- 1951) married.9 June 1910, residence of R.H. Coles, Hahndorf, Marie Bertha SCHMEISS (1886-1974) had 4 children 1911-1926. 

3.5  ├──  Gottfried Alfred (1879-1967) married 19 January 1920 St Michael Church, Hahndorf by Pastor BRAUER, Rose Therese Irene HENNINGSEN (1888-1975) had 7 children  1911-1928

3.6  ├──  Maria Emma (1881-1923) married 11 April 1912, St Paul's Church, Hahndorf, Wilhelm Albert EY (1883-1964) had 3 children 1912-1919. 

3.7  ├──  Pauline Hulda (1883-1957) married 10 April 1913, St Paul's Church, Hahndorf, Edward Otto MUELLER (1882-1954) had 4 children 1914-1925. 

3.8  ├──  Martha Mathilda (1886-1887).

3.9  ├──  Johanna Louise  (1888-... married 23 April 1914 St Paul's Church, Hahndorf,  Ernest  NELSON  (1892 -1956)  had 3 children 1915-1924.

3.10 └──  Johann Friedrich Wilhelm (1891-1960) never married  

Louise Liebelt and Gottlieb Kuchel's Golden Wedding anniversary 1921

Gottlieb is 75 and Eleanore 73 years of age, seated in front.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Below: 3 photos from same Golden Wedding event.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The timber slab barn with the thatched roof is in the background of all 3 photos.

'LIEBELT family KUCHEL Golden Wedding'  This is an enlargement of Photo 2 below. Louise and Gottlieb may be surrounded by their siblings. 

'LIEBELT family, grandmother KUCHEL, J.G. KUCHEL  Golden Wedding.

Photo 1: -  Same background as photos 

                   on the right, a large  gathering.

                       Photo 2:- Gottlieb Kuchel and  Louise Liebelt, possibly     

surrounded

by their siblings.

Photo 3: -   Gottlieb Kuchel and Louise Liebelt, possibly surrounded by 7 of their 8 surviving children. See identification of children below.

 

This slide tries to identify the siblings with their parents in 1921

 

1st child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb  KUCHEL

3.1   Anna 'Bertha' Kuchel 1872-1938 married in 1899 to a Collins.

Anna 'Bertha' KUCHEL married William COLLINS, 13 September  1899

 

                                            Bertha Colins and 3 of her 8 children

 

 
Bertha Kuchel photo by Edmund Diederich, Bertha's Uncle. Bertha Kuchel, William Collins and three of their children, photo by Edmond Deiderich.

 

3.1  Bertha Kuchel and William Collins's 8 children born between 1900-1913

3.1.1├──  Harry Charles COLLINS 1900-1978, married 27 July 1927, to Irene Myrtle Osma KORBER 1901-1994, they had 3 children 1928-1932.

3.1.2├──  Anna Mathilda COLLINS 1901-1967, married 31 August 1927, Ambleside, to William Woodworth CHRISTIAN 1883-1953, they had 1....... 1931

3.1.3├──  Alfred James COLLINS 1903-1975, married .......Doris Julia WIGGE, they had 5 daughters between 1946-1961. 

3.1.4├──  Ernest Louis COLLINS 1905-1973, married Veronica Jean WILSON 1911-2006, had 3 children. 

3.1.5├──  Edwin William COLLINS 1907-1982 

3.1.6├──  William George COLLINS 1909-1958 married Winifred May NORTON 1917-1979, they had 4 children.

3.1.7├──  Alick Benjamin COLLINS 1911, married Rubina Nora LINDNER 1907-1991, they had 2 boys. 

3.1.8└──  Emma Rose COLLINS 1913-1994, married Eric Julius WITTWER 1910-1997, they had 3 children. 

 

                    Collins Family photograph

 

Photo above: Bertha KUCHEL and William COLLINS with all of their 8 children, 2 girls and 6 boys, ca 1925.

  • Back row Lt-Rt: Alfred James COLLINS,  Harry COLLINS,  Anna Mathilda COLLINS,  Ernest Louis COLLINS, Edwin William COLLINS..

  • Front row: Lt-Rt: Emma Rose COLLINS, William COLLINS, Bertha KUCHEL, Alick Benjamin COLLINS, William George COLLINS.

  •  

 

1st child of Anna Bertha Kuchel and William Charles Collins

3.1.1 Harry Charles COLLINS  1900-197

Harry Charles COLLINS married 27 July 1927 to Irene Myrtle Osma Korber 1901-1994, they had 3 children 1928-1932. 

 

 

'Harry Collins'

   

'To Uncle Bill from Harry & Rene 27 July 1917'

 

Hans Heysen sketches William Collins and his eldest child, son, Harry Collins.

All 4 sketches below were produced by Hans Heysen.

In 1911, William Collins 1872-1942, was 39 years, in 1908 his son Harry Collins (1900-1978) was 8 years of age.

.

     'Old Man Collins', 1911, pastel.

 

                   'The Axeman,' Bill Collins, 1910,       charcoal on paper.

'

Harry Collins of Billy-Goat Lane'

 

.

                 'Collins jnr, Flute Player'  1908, charcoal    and  pastel on dark buff paper

 

"The Cedars: Additional information.

A little bit of recent “Royal” frippery at The Cedars!

(Allan Campbell - Extract from Hahndorf Village Voice #29, March 2012)

Maybe of interest to readers of the Village Voice is that Hahndorf had a royal visit.  The Governor and his wife brought Prince Edward, Duke of Kent, to The Cedars (apparently at his request) to spend an hour looking through the Heysen studios and residence.  There are , of course, quite a number of Heysen originals in the Royal Collection at Buckingham Palace in London, as many of the visiting royals were presented with a painting by Sir Hans as a memento of their visit to Australia.  The Duke was most interested to know that a study in pastel of Old Man Collins of English Street was given as a gift to his grandmother, Queen Mary, by Dame Nellie Melba ..... he was inspecting a small exhibition of Heysen's drawings in the main studio of William Collins, who was a favoured subject of Hans Heysen as they lived opposite one another in English Street for the four years that the Heysen Family resided in the village itself.  The artist paid Collins the princely sum of one shilling to model for him! After leaving The Cedars, the vice regal party took their royal visitor up to The Lane for a wine tasting!"

 

2nd child of Anna Bertha Kuchel and William Charles Collins

3.1.2 Anna Mathilda Collins 1901-1967

Anna Mathilda married 31 August 1927, Ambleside, to William Woodworth Christian 1883-1953, they had 1 ..... .. 1931

 

3rd child of Anna Bertha Kuchel and William Charles Collins

3.1.3 Alfred James COLLINS  1903-1975

Alfred James married Doris Julia WIGGE, they had 5 daughters between 1946-1961.

 

'Alf Collins'

  'Alf Collins'

 

                                                   Do you know where this home may have been?

   

'Harry Collins' This is Harry left and his younger brother in the middle,

by 3 years Alf Collins.

'Alf Collins' These 2 photos may have been                                       taken on the same day but definitely on the

same verandah steps

 

This photo above is  'Frieda Mueller' is also taken on the same steps.

Is the woman on the far right Alfreda Marie 'Freida' Müller 2nd child of 'Minnie' Meyer &  Alf Müller but is not related to the Collins children.

 

4th child of Anna Bertha Kuchel and William Charles Collins

3.1.4 Ernest Louis COLLINS  1905-1973

Ernest Louis married Veronica Jean WILSON 1911-2006, had 3 children. 

 

5th child of Anna Bertha Kuchel and William Charles Collins 

3.1.5 Edwin William COLLINS  1907-1982   

 

6th child of Anna Bertha KUCHEL and William Charles COLLINS 

3.1.6 William George COLLINS  1909-1958

William George married Winifred May NORTON 1917-1979, they had 4 children. 

 

7th child of Anna Bertha Kuchel and William Charles Collins

3.1.7 Alick Benjamin COLLINS  1911-

Alick Benjamin married Rubina Nora Lindner  1907-1991, they had 2 boys. 

                   'Alick Collins'

"Original Property - Hahndorf Bowling Club. This land was originally owned by Alick Benjamin Collins and consisted of three allotments 115, 116 and 117 of Section 4002 which were sold by him for use by the Hahndorf Bowling Club and Hahndorf Senior Citizens for their subsequent community use - refer to HBC - Ownership & Early History for further details."

 

8th child of Anna Bertha Kuchel and William Charles Collins

3.1.8 Emma Rose COLLINS 1913-1994

Emma Rose married Eric Julius Wittwer 1910-1997, they had 3 children

 

 

2nd child of Johanna Louise Liebelt and Gottlieb  Kuchel

3.2   Gustav Adolph KUCHEL  1873-1931 married in 1902 a Braendler

Gustav Adolph  married Louise Martha Braendler 1879-1944, they had 10 children

   

'Gustav Adolph Kuchel' - Photo by Edmond Diederich, Gustav's uncle

Gustav Adolph KUCHEL at 29 years of age married Louise Martha BRAENDLER 23 years of age on 6 August 1903, Ev Lutheran St Paul, Hahndorf.

 

Gustav Kuchel and Martha Braendler's 10  children born between 1905-1920

          3.2.1├──  Benjamin Theodor 1905-1967, married Doris Edna CARPENTER

          3.2.2├──  Oswald Adolf Paul b1906,  married Dorothy Nellie MAGOR

          3.2.3├──  Christoph Otto Alfred b1907, married Coralie Edith WILLIS

          3.2.4├──  Edward Wilhelm 1909-1962 married Beatrice Annie MENADUE

          3.2.5├──  Gustav Adolph 1911-1911.

          3.2.6├──  Martha Louise b1911  married Gordon Lindsay WHITE

          3.2.7├──  Alwina Selma b1912 married Lorenz Edwin ZILM  [PHOTO BELOW]

         3.2. 8├──  Alfred Paul 1915-1963, married Nellie Clare HUNTER nee HENTY.

          3.2.9├──  Herbert Arthur b1916  married Gwen Ambrose Pearce CLOUGH.

         3.2.10└──  Gordon Albert b1920 married Audrey Charlotte PARBS.

 

                                                    Braendler / Kuchel Wedding 1903 

  

'Gustav & Martha Kuchel'

 

'Gustav Kuchel wedding' - Background is a Fachwerk Prussian barn. - Photo by Edmund Diederich, 1903

 

 

This slide tries to Identify the guests at the Kuchel/Braendler wedding 1903

 

 

3.2 Gustav Kuchel and Martha Braendler's 10  children born between 1905-1920

          3.2.1├──  Benjamin Theodor 1905-1967, married Doris Edna CARPENTER

          3.2.2├──  Oswald Adolf Paul b1906,  married Dorothy Nellie MAGOR

          3.2.3├──  Christoph Otto Alfred b1907, married Coralie Edith WILLIS

          3.2.4├──  Edward Wilhelm 1909-1962 married Beatrice Annie MENADUE

          3.2.5├──  Gustav Adolph 1911-1911.

          3.2.6├──  Martha Louise b1911  married Gordon Lindsay WHITE

          3.2.7├──  Alwina Selma b1912 married Lorenz Edwin ZILM  [PHOTO BELOW]

         3.2. 8├──  Alfred Paul 1915-1963, married Nellie Clare HUNTER nee HENTY.

          3.2.9├──  Herbert Arthur b1916  married Gwen Ambrose Pearce CLOUGH.

         3.2.10└──  Gordon Albert b1920 married Audrey Charlotte PARBS.

                                            Braendler / Kuchel farm and house 

Below - Gustav Adolph Kuchel with pony, and Louise Martha Braendler on verandah, with four of their children, possibly the first four boys, playing in the grass. 1911c.

Below - Gustav Adolph Kuchel standing, and Louise Martha Braendler with large hat, sitting, & 4 small boys ca 1911.  

'Gustav Kuchel, home Hahndorf' 'Gus Kuchel'

Below - Gustav Adolph Kuchel standing 2nd from left, and Louise 'Martha' Braendler ca 1911.

      All four boys in same clothing and hats as well

 
Are the four small boys Benjamin Theodor Gustav b1905, Oswald Adolf Paul b1906, Christoph Otto Alfred b1907 and Edward Wilhelm Kuchel  b1909?

 

This slide tries to identify the adults and children from the original photo above right

                                               

                                         3.2 Gustav's Aunty Mrs Diederich, and his family


 

'Mrs Diederich and Gustav Kuchel's family'

This slide tries to identify the adults and children

from the original photo on the left.

 

                                       Family photo                                                                                                                    3.2 Silver Wedding Celebrations 1896

Below - Gustav Adolph KUCHEL and Louise Martha BRAENDLER with four of their children, possibly the first four boys, ca 1917 Gustav Adolph KUCHEL  and Louise Martha BRAENDLER in centre front, Silver Wedding 1896. 'Gustav Kuchel Silver Wedding' Gustav Adolph KUCHEL  and Louise Martha BRAENDLER in centre front, Silver Wedding 1896. 'Gustav Kuchel Silver Wedding'

 

  • Benjamin Theodor Gustav KUCHEL married Doris Edna CARPENTER 26 June 1935.
  • Oswald Adolf Paul KUCHEL married Dorothy Nellie MAGOR 15 October 1932.
  • Christoph Otto Alfred KUCHEL married Coralie Edith WILLIS 1935.
  • Edward Wilhelm KUCHEL married Beatrice Annie MENADUE 27 March 1937.

 

Silver Wedding Celebrations

All 7 of their surviving children, 2 girls and 7 boys.

This slide tries to identify the adults and children from the original photograph above.

 

3rd child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb  KUCHEL

3.2.3  Johanne Caroline KUCHEL  1875-1876

 

 

4th  child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb  KUCHEL: 

3.4 Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL  1877-1951 married in to a Schmeiss

Johann Gottlieb KUCHEL married Marie Bertha SCHMEISS in 1910. 

 

                                                                        3.4  Gottlieb Kuchel and Bertha Schmeiss's 4 children born between 1911-1926

         3.4.1├──  Otto Carl Albert (1911-1931)

          3.4.2├──  Dora (1914  ) married Allan STEVENS.

          3.4.3├──  Frederich Herbert (1919. ) married Priscilla Amelia ASSENDER

          3.4.4└──  Ronald Lance (1926-  ) married Ivy Florence GALLASCH.

 

'Dora, Herb, Otto Kuchel' 'Herbie Kuchel'

 

5th  child of Johanna Louise Liebelt and Gottlieb  Kuchel

3.5 Gottfried Alfred 'Fred' KUCHEL  1879-1967 married to a Henningsen

Gottfried Alfred KUCHEL married Rose Therese Irene HENNINGSEN in 19 January 1910

 

                                                                 Fred Kuchel & Rose Henningsen's 7 children born between 1911-1928

         3.5.1├──  Ella Refina (1911-1969) married Benno Wilhelm WITTWER

          3.5.2├──  Edna May (1913-1913)  

          3.5.3├──  Frieda Olga (1914  ) married Sydney Bruce GALLASCH

          3.5.4├──  Marvis Rose (1917-1920) 

          3.5.5├──  Louis Alfred (1921-   ) married Gwenda Margaret BURGEMEISTER

          3.5.6├──  Allan Marcus (1923-   ) married Lillian Dawn van der MOLEN.

          3.5.7└──  Dudley William (1928-  ) married Stella Vera CLASOHM.

 

3.5 Gottfried Alfred 'Fred' KUCHEL  1879-1967 continued

This photo below of Fred Kuchel and his friend Oscar Martin is interesting because of the photo background as well as what they are doing.

 

 

'Fred Kuchel,

Oscar Martin'.

John Foumakis, collector, says: Fred Kuchel "on the left is drinking Hochheimer also known as Hock wine. I suspect the bottle is a light amber colour as most Hocks are.  By comparison the Champagne bottle on the right held by Oscar is green".  
   

 

 

 


'O Mueller & O Martin'.

Otto Mueller & Oscar Martin are both in the wedding party below.  This photo was taken 3 years before Otto married Hulda Kuchel who are both standing at the back on the far right together.

Oscar Martin is front row 2nd from right. with Frieda Henningsen. This photo may have been taken 19 January 1910.

 

Note: J Friedrich Wilhelm Kuchel 1891-1960, at rear on extreme left..

   

        Henningsen / Kuchel Wedding 1910

'Kuchel' 'Fred Kuchel wedding' 'Mrs Les Hill, Bert Henningsen, Hulda & Otto Mueller, Frieda Henningsen, Oscar Martin, Max & Bertha Henningsen (nee Heinrich), Peter Henningsen, Mary Heinrich.'

 

                                                                 Fred Kuchel & Rose Henningsen's 7 children born between 1911-1928

 

         3.5.1├──  Ella Refina (1911-1969) married Benno Wilhelm WITTWER

          3.5.2├──  Edna May (1913-1913)  

          3.5.3├──  Frieda Olga (1914  ) married Sydney Bruce GALLASCH

          3.5.4├──  Marvis Rose (1917-1920) 

          3.5.5├──  Louis Alfred (1921-   ) married Gwenda Margaret BURGEMEISTER

          3.5.6├──  Allan Marcus (1923-   ) married Lillian Dawn van der MOLEN.

          3.5.7└──  Dudley William (1928-  ) married Stella Vera CLASOHM.

 

 

6th child of Johanna Louise Liebelt and Gottlieb  Kuchel

3.6  Maria 'Emma'  Kuchel  1881-1923 married in 1912 to an Ey

Maria Emma married Wilhelm 'Albert' EY in 1912.

 

                                                                Emma Kuchel & Albert Ey's 3   children 1912-1919.

          3.6.1──  Albert William (1912-  )

          3.6.2├──  Hilda Emma (1917-  )  married Leslie George LEATCH.

          3.6.3└──   Rita Mavis (1919-   )  married Kenneth Alfred WAKEFIELD

 

                                                                      The 4 Kuchel sisters, Bertha, Emma, Hulda and Louise and parents

 

Can anyone confirm the above identities, Emma

might be far left.

photo by Edmund Diederich, her Uncle.

Emma is on the left, photo by

Edmund Diederich, her Uncle.

                  Emma is back row far left

    

               Emma's wedding and her mother in law

1912 wedding photo of 29 year old Albert Ey and 30 year old Emma Kuchel. 'Albert Ey, Emma.'

Photo on left 'Mrs J Eye (Müller) is possibly Johanne Caroline Mathilde Muller, who married in 1868 in the Evangelical Lutheran St Martin Church, Rosenthal, Barossa, to Julius Friedrich EY.  They had  10 children and the 8th child was Wilhelm 'Albert' Ey, the groom above, who married Maria Kuchel.  2 of the 3 of Maria and Albert's children are below.

 

                                        2 of Emma & Alberts children                              

'Hilda Ey'  1917c 'Rita Ey' 1919c
 

 

 

7th child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb  KUCHEL

 

3.7  Pauline Hulda KUCHEL)  1883-1957

Hulda married Edward Otto MUELLER in 1913.

Above - Pauline Hulda KUCHEL (1883-1896)  Geboren 16 October 1883,  Confirmed 1 Advent 1896, at 13 years of age, St Michael of Hahndorf.   This certificate is now 140 years old. Above - Edward Otto MÜLLER (1882-1895) Geboren 7 February 1882,  Confirmed 10 November 1895, at 13 years of age, St Paul's, Hahndorf.  This certificate is now 140 years old.

 

Confirmation 1940

Hilda Mueller, born 11 February 1925, baptised 1 March 1925, confirmed at St Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, on  6 Sunday after Trinity on 30 June 1940, by W.E. PETERING, Pastor.

'Hilda MUELLER'

 

 

       
       
       
       

 

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'Gottlieb Paech'

 

 

Johanne Eleanore Paech b1851, husband Carl Ferdinand Mueller b1851, and their 2 children.

Wilhelm Alfred 'Alf'  Mueller 1879-1928 on the left and newborn, Edward Otto  Mueller  1882-1954, being held by Eleanore.

     
'F Muellerand family'       'J.C.F. Müller'    
       

 

Above - Pauline Hulda KUCHEL (1883-1896)  Geboren 16 October 1883,  Confirmed 1 Advent 1896, at 13 years of age, St Michael of Hahndorf.   This certificate is now 140 years old. Above - Edward Otto MÜLLER (1882-1895) Geboren 7 February 1882,  Confirmed 10 November 1895, at 13 years of age, St Paul's, Hahndorf.  This certificate is now 140 years old.

 

                                                                                                          Kuchel / Muller wedding 10 April 1913

 
     

 

3.7  Pauline Hulda  KUCHEL and  Edward Otto MUELLER's 4 children 1914-1925

 

3.7.1 ├──  Edwin Carl (1914-1969) never married.

3.7.2 ├──  Clarence (1918-1970) never married

3.7.3 ├──  Ronald  (1923-1923)

3.7.4 └──  Hilda (1925-2000) mother to John MULLER, owner of these photographs, father was Francesco NATALIE.

Both of these photos on the left with the chair, were taken out the front of Hilda's Mueller's home at Paechtown.  


 

 

 

 
Hilda Mueller & her 2 brothers Edwin Carl 9 years and Clarence 7 years of age.

Hilda Mueller

1925c

 

   

Confirmation 1940

Hilda Mueller, born 11 February 1925, baptised 1 March 1925, confirmed at St Paul's Evangelical Lutheran Church, Hahndorf, on  6 Sunday after Trinity on 30 June 1940, by W.E. PETERING, Pastor.

'Hilda MUELLER'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                     Mueller's School Qualifying Certificates 

'Edwin MUELLER 17 Dec 1927' 'Clarence MUELLER 12 Dec 1930' 'Hilda MUELLER 17 Dec 1937'
Edwin Carl Mueller would have been 13 years of age  when he received this certificate from the Public School at Ambleside. Clarence Mueller would have been 12 years of age when he received this certificate from the Public School at Ambleside. Hilda Mueller would have been 12 years of age when she received this certificate from the Public School at Hahndorf.
 

 

                                                              Edwin Mueller in WW2

Edwin Carl Mueller, back row,

2nd from right.

 

 

 

 

8th  child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb  KUCHEL:

3.8  Martha Mathilda KUCHEL 1886-1887.

 

 

9th  child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb  KUCHEL

 

3.9  Johanne 'Louise' KUCHEL 1888-1924 in 1914 married a Nelson

 

Johanna Louise 25 years old, married Ernest Nelson, 21 years, 23 April 1914, St Paul's Church Hahndorf.


'Louise Kuchel (Nelson)'. 

'Ernst Nelson'

 

                                              Kuchel / Nelson wedding 23 April 1914

'E&L Nelson' by Thelma-Duryea, Adelaide

Wedding photo taken by Edmund Diederich, Louise's uncle, 

'J.G. & J.L. Kuchel'

These 2 slides on right attempt to identify the people present at the wedding

 


'E & L Nelson'  by 'Thelma-Duryea,  Adelaide.' Wedding photo taken by Edmund Diederich, Louise's uncle, 1914. 'J.G. & J.L. Kuchel'
 
 

 
  These two slides attempt to identify the people present at this wedding.

 

3.9 Johanne Louise KUCHEL and Ernest NELSON had 3 sons between 1915-1924

3.9.1 ├──  Clarence Murray b1915

3.9.2 ├──  Gordon b1918

3.9.3 └──  Hurtle b1924

 

 


 
 

 
Louise Kuchel, Ernst Nelson and their first two sons, 1921c. 'Nelson family' 'Louise nee KUCHEL, Hurtle, Clarence, Ernest NELSON, and Gordon'. Louise Kuchel, Ernest Nelson & their 3 sons, late ca1930's.  In 1938 Clarence was 23 years old, Gordon was 20 years old, and Hurtle was 14 years of age.

'Clarence NELSON'

 

 

 

 

 

 

'Gordon Nelson'

'Hurtle Nelson and Caroline Potter'

Malte Nelson, funeral card.

'Nelson Pt Pirie'

 

 

10th  child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb  KUCHEL

3.10  Johann Friedrich Wilhelm  KUCHEL 1891-1960

Johann Friedrich Wilhelm  never married . 

  

'Oss LIEBELT, Art NITSCHKE, Ben LIEBELT, Ed LIEBELT, Bill KUCHEL'. 'Alf PAECH, Albert EY, Bill KUCHEL'.

Above:  photo Johann Friedrich Wilhelm 'Bill' Kuchel is 2nd from right.

Oss Liebelt: is this Oscar Alfred Liebelt b1901, or Oscar Ernst Liebelt b1901

Art Nitschke: is this Arthur William Nitschke?

Ben Liebelt: is this Philip Benjamin Liebelt b1900, 1st cousin to Ed and Oss?

Ed Liebelt: is this Alfred Edward Liebelt b1903, brother of Oss?

Bill Kuchel: is Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Kuchel b1891.

Above:  photo by Edmund Diederich.  - 

Johann Friedrich Wilhelm 'Bill' Kuchel, is on far right.

Alf Paech: is this Alfred Carl Paech b1892 who married Auguste Ottilie Fromm b1891, in 1919?

Albert Ey: is this Wilhelm Albert Ey b1883, and married 'Bill's sister Maria 'Emma' Kuchel  b1881,  in 1912?

Bill Kuchel: is Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Kuchel b1891.

 

 

That is the completion of the photographs in the John Müller Photo Collection, as they relate to the  children and siblings of Louise Liebelt 1848-1940 and Gottlieb Kuchel 1846-1923.  Now we have the collection of photographs that have larger gatherings of these relatives.

 

                                                                        Both of these photos were taken on the same day

 
       
'Gustav Kuchel Silver Wedding'               NOT correct, possibly a christening of 2 grandchildren 1909   'Kuchel family Echunga Road' This slide tries to identify the family members in the photo on the left
   

 

 
     
Louise Liebelt and Gottlieb Kuchel, with all of their living children except Gustav Adolph Kuchel.   'Gathering at J.G. Kuchel'  

 

Louise Liebelt and Gottlieb Kuchel, with all of their living children except Gustav Adolph Kuchel.   

 

On Pauline's left are her parents 67 year old Gottlieb Kuchel  and 65 year old Johanne Liebelt (unknown child on her lap).  Edward's 62 year old parents are alongside of him, Johanne Eleonore Paech, and Johann Carl Ferdinand Müller.

'Gathering at J.G. Kuchel'

 

 

Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb  KUCHEL's  daughters: Maria Emma and Johanne Louise KUCHEL.

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Pauline Hulda  KUCHEL and  Edward Otto MUELLER's 4 children.

├──  Edwin Carl (1914-1969) never married.

├──  Clarence (1918-1970) never married

├──  Ronald  (1923-1923)

└──  Hilda (1925-2000) mother to John MULLER, owner of these photographs, father was Francesco NATALIE.

6.10  ├── Johann Friedrich Wilhelm  KUCHEL 1891-1960

10th  child of Johanna Louise LIEBELT and Gottlieb  KUCHEL: 

Johann Friedrich Wilhelm  never married . 

 

'Oss LIEBELT, Art NITSCHKE, Ben LIEBELT, Ed LIEBELT, Bill KUCHEL'. 'Alf PAECH, Albert EY, Bill KUCHEL'.

Above:  photo Johann Friedrich Wilhelm 'Bill' Kuchel is 2nd from right.

Oss LIEBELT: is this Oscar Alfred Liebelt b1901, or Oscar Ernst Liebelt b1901

Art Nitschke: is this Arthur William Nitschke?

Ben Liebelt: is this Philip Benjamin Liebelt b1900, 1st cousin to Ed and Oss?

Ed Liebelt: is this Alfred Edward Liebelt b1903, brother of Oss?

Bill Kuchel: is Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Kuchel b1891.

Above:  photo by Edmund Diederich.  - 

Johann Friedrich Wilhelm 'Bill' Kuchel, is on far right.

Alf Paech: is this Alfred Carl Paech b1892 who married Auguste Ottilie Fromm b1891, in 1919?

Albert Ey: is this Wilhelm Albert EY b1883, and married 'Bill's sister Maria 'Emma' KUCHEL b1881,  in 1912?

Bill Kuchel: is Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Kuchel b1891.

 

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4th child of:  Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth Kuchel and Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL

3.4 Johann Friedrich 'Hanfried' Kuchel 1850-1909, married in 1897 to a Kubern.

Johann Friedrich KUCHEL 1850-1909 born.......... near Hahndorf, S.A. when he was 49 years of age he married on 30 December 1897, St Paul's Church, Hahndorfto  Emma KUBERN b1862


Below: 'Grandmother Kuchel, Gottlieb Kuchel, Hanfried Kuchel'.  And probably their youngest sister Anna Elizabeth Kuchel who married Edmund Diederich.

'Hanfried Kuchel'

 

 

 Hanfried and Emma  had 6 children between 1898-19..

3.4.1 ├──  Johann Friedrich 1898-1898.

3.4.2 ├──  Caroline Dorothea 1899-1920 born Sawmill Gully.

3.4.3 ├──  Albert Edward 1901-1963 born Sawmill gully married Adeline Ivy Laura Maud PENNERY.

3.4.4 ├──  Alma Othilie 1902-1974 born Sawmill gully,  married Herbert Wilhelm ZEUNERT.

3.4.5 ├──  Ida Clara Auguste b1907 Sawmill gully

3.4.6 └──  Clara A (.    ) m WOOLLEY????

 

Photo below by:  Hanfried's brother in law Edmund Diederich.

Johann Friedrich KUCHEL.

'Hanfried KUCHEL'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4th child of:  Johanna Dorothea Elisabeth Kuchel and Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL

4.8.  Anna Elizabeth KUCHEL 1854-1932

Anna Elizabeth Kuchel 1854-1932 born.......... near Hahndorf, S.A. when he was 37 years of age when she  married on 19 April 1891 at her own residence near Hahndorf, to Rudolph Richard Edmund Diederich 1854-1923.    "Trained in lithography and photography in Germany, Edmund Diederich emigrated to South Australia in 1881.  He worked for a short time in Adelaide before pursing a career as a travelling portrait photographer and artist with his mobile studio. He travelled through the mid-north in South Australia before settling in Hahndorf around 1895 where he worked as both a photographer and farmer."

 

Elizabeth and Edmund had 2 children from  1889-1895

4.8.1├──  Ida Clara Auguste 1889-

4.8.2├──  Wilhelm Paul 1895-.

     
       
  'Diederich' 'Diederich'    Timber slab small home near Hahndorf, identified as being taken around ca 1895.  making the small child in the foreground being 6 year old Ida, and her new born brother is in his mother's arms.    
         

 

 

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Where did J Georg Kuchel Anna Seiffert and their 4 sons (J Erdmann, J Samuel J Friedrich  J Gottlieb ) settle in South Australia after arrival


 

 

 
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 Hd of Onkaparinga. Sections 3821, 3822 & 3823 on the northern side of the main Hahndorf Road. 'Kirchenbergen' looking up Leonards Rd, Hahndorf, towards Nixon's Mill. Photo JBH 2021 'Kirchenbergen' looking north down Leonards Rd, Hahndorf.  Kirchenbergen, Paechtown, Friedrichstadt & Hahndorf.  
  The author was taken to this location for the first time by my 6th cousin Chris Williams whose 3rd great-grandparents were J Samuel Kuchel & J Dorothea Klenke.


Kirchenbergen

This extract is referring to Gottlieb KUCHEL's grand parents and uncles  that arrived in South Australia  in 1838 on the Prince George. This quote is taken from 'KUCHEL 1838-1970' by SCHWERDT, HILL and WITTWER page 4.

"It is believed that in the early 1840's they moved out to (an area known as) Kirchenbergen which was about two miles south of the Hahndorf township.  Kirchenbergen (meaning, "hills of the church") was undulating country which the KUCHEL's farmed.  It was near Windmill Hill (a well-known spot in the Adelaide Hills) and it was in the gully between the properties now owned by Mr H. BRAENDLER and Mr G PAECH.  The ruins of four houses, probably built by the KUCHEL's, can still be seen on Mr BRAENDLER's property."

"Kirchenbergen comprised three sections of land totalling about 240 acres (sections 3821, 3822, 3823)....... purchased by the Incorporated Society for the Progogation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts on  15 May 1841.'

I am unclear whether 'Kirchenbergen' is the land they farmed, (3 sections was a lot of land in the 1840's) or is it an 'area', more like 'Paechtown'?.  In 1842 the 3 Kuchel boys from the Prince George were: Samuel aged 27yrs married with 1 child, Friedrich unmarried at 24yrs of age, and Gottlieb the youngest, aged 21yrs and unmarried.  Georg their father died at 'Kirchenbergen' in 1845, 7 years after arrival.  The boys mother Anna would have been 55yrs of age.

Does anyone know the answer?  

We know that Gottlieb's parents were first cousins.  His mother's (Dorothea Kuchel), father, was Daniel Kuchel b1774.   Daniel also came on the 'Patel', with his daughter Dorothea & his son-in-law Erdmann KUCHEL.  I have no information about who Daniel was married to.   Seventy year old Daniel is described on the 'Ships List' as coming from Lochow (see Illustration C).  Erdmann KUCHEL, has been described in 'Ships List' as coming from Langmeil,( see map above).   The same 'Ship's List' also states that Daniel, was among 'eleven persons', who died at sea, 'mostly old men, and very young children.'  SAGHS has a Death Index entry.......

There is evidence in the form of a death certificate  that a Daniel  KUCHEL died in Hahndorf at 83 yrs of age on 27 January 1857.  That means he was born c1774, the same age as the Daniel who had apparently died on the 'Patel'.

 Louise and Gottlieb moved to Section 3913 Hd of Kuitpo in 1878.                                                                                    

Hd of Kuitpo, Section 3913Alan Wittwer  & Fairalie Liebelt wrote about this couple in 1980, in the LIEBELT FAMILY HISTORY pge 49:

'Johanne was born on June 15, 1848.  As a young woman Johanne worked as a domestic servant in various households.  She married Johann Gottlieb Kuchel in St. Michael's Church on May 4, 1871, Pastor Strempel officiating.   Gottlieb was born at Kirchenbergen near Hahndorf on April 21, 1846.  His parents were first cousins, Johann Gottfried Erdmann Kuchel and Johanne Dorothea Elisabeth born Kuchelwho had emigrated the previous year from the German village of Lochow.

Immediately after their marriage Johanne and Gottlieb lived at Friedrichstadt on the Mount Barker Rd., then in Hahndorf in English Street.  They then moved, in about 1878, to part of Section 3913, in the Hundred of Kuitpo which Johanne's father (Gottlieb Liebelt) had purchased.  Here Gottlieb built a home of slabs, straw and mud.  The home was demolished several years ago, the site now being marked by a few old trees.  

Gottlieb was a carpenter, making rakes and other tools as well as hurdles for the Oakbank races. Gottlieb died on October 31, 1923; Johanne reached the high age of 91 years passing away on March 29, 1940.  Both are buried in the Hahndorf cemetery, where their grave is marked by a tombstone.  Their old homestead property is now owned and farmed by Mr K. Liebelt, a grandson of Johanne's brother August.'

 

 

 

Below: The parents and siblings of Johanna Karoline LUBASCH.

 

Johanna Karoline LUBASCH 1827-1902, 19 years of age marries Johann Gottlieb LIEBELT 1823-1893, 23 years of age, 9 September 1847 by Pastor Kavel in the school room at Hahndorf.

Eldest child of Maria Elisabeth KUCHEL 1798-1879 and Johann Christian LIEBELT 1801-1858: Johann Gottlieb LIEBELT.

Note this photo below is identical in background to the one of his wife, both taken by Charles Niesche, photographer. 

 

      Alan WITTWER wrote in the LIEBELT FAMILY HISTORY page 45:

'Johann Gottlieb (LIEBELT) was born on December 28, 1823, probably in the German village of Nickern. (See Meyers Gazette map above)  On arrival in Australia in 1839 he lived with his parents in Hahndorf; it seems likely that he was employed as a shepherd in the early days.  Gottlieb and Johanne Caroline LUBASCH were married on September 9, 1847; the ceremony was conducted by Pastor A.L.C. KAVEL in the school room at Hahndorf.  The witnesses to the marriage were Gottlieb KUCHEL and Christian ZILM' 

This Gottlieb KUCHEL was probably Erdmann's youngest brother who had come out on the Prince George and who he may have named his first son after, the Gottlieb KUCHEL of this article. The LIEBELT's and the KUCHEL's were possibly already friends, from knowing them in Lochow, not  far from Nickern, or from their shared experiences in Hahndorf  (JBH author/researcher).

'Gottlieb and his wife were among the earliest settlers at Friedrichstadt - it is not known exactly when he settled at Friedrichstadt but as his nick-name was 'Squatter' it seems likely that be 'squatted' on his selection before he formally took up the land.  On December 5, 1850, he became the registered owner of Section 3903 of the Hundred of Kuitpo.  this 80 acre section was purchased from Johann Friedrich PAECH of Grünthal for 80 pound.  Access was allowed to other settlers to the water pools on this property.  On this section Gottlieb built his first home of mud, straw and slabs.

This home stood until 1912 when it was destroyed in a disastrous bushfire.  The home had been replace earlier by an all brick home - one of the first in the Hahndorf area to be built entirely of brick. Over the years Gottlieb purchased and leased additional properties. In February 1856 he paid 300 pound for 30 acres, part of section 3899.  On October 16, 1866 he took over the lease of sections 3897, 3895 and 3884 and part of section 3896 in the Hundred of Kuitpo from Gottlob SCHULZ.

Gottlieb leased from the Incorporated Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts, sections 3696, 3733, 5007 and parts of sections 3732 and 3698 in the Hundred of Macclesfield.  The annual rental was 20 pound per year plus 1/- per acre which was cultivated.  The land had to be cultivated within 4 years.

Gottlieb was a farmer; it appears likely that he also did some shearing.  Much of the land mentioned above is still in the possession of members of the family.  On May 11, 1893, Gottlieb passed away at the age of 69 years.  His widow attained the age of 75 years, passing away on May 30, 1902. Both are buried in the Hahndorf Cemetery where a tombstone marks their resting place.  It is of interest to note that Christian's 3 children and their spouses are buried in adjacent blocks in the Hahndorf Cemetery.'8.  

 

 

 
     
     
       

 

                                                                                  

Alan WITTWER wrote in the 'LIEBELT FAMILY HISTORY' page 44: 

'Christian married Maria Elisabeth KUCHEL, the daughter of Daniel KUCHEL who lived in the village of Lochow (see map above). We know of three children born to this marriage - Johann Gottlieb, Johann Christoph & Johanne Eleonore were all born in Germany and emigrated to Australia with their parents on the 'Zebra', in 1838.' 

'Maria Elisabeth's sister Anna Dorothea (Mrs Johann Gottfried Erdmann KUCHEL) and husband and children, together with Danie KUCHEL, emigrated on the 'Heerjeebhoy Rustonjee Patel' in the year 1845.  They settled near Hahndorf.  Daniel was listed as 'grossknecht or foreman.'

​'Maria Elisabeth lived on in Hahndorf until her death at the age of 81 years on the 2nd of August 1879. She was buried two days later by Pastor STREMPEL in the St. Michael's Cemetery; her bearers were J.F. & J.W. THIELE, W. & A. SCHÜTZ, F.W. WITTWER, C JAENSCH, C. MARKS and F. SCHNEEMILCH.  Her tombstone which matches that of her husband still stands.'

'Inscription on tombstones: Here rests in God, our beloved mother Elisabeth LIEBELT, born KUCHEL. She was born January 4, 1798, and died on August. I know that my Redeermer lives; What comfort this sweet sentence gives! PSALM 19.25

 

Johanne LIEBELT's  (b1848) father is Gottlieb LIEBELT and his father is Christian LIEBELT

Photo from Liebelt Family HistoryAlan Wittwer wrote in the LIEBELT FAMILY HISTORY pge 44:  

'Johann Christian was born on February 2, 1801. The place of his birth is not known although it seems likely that it was either Nickern or Schoenborn in the Province of Brandenburg.  Little is known of his life in Germany except that at the time of registration for emigration his place of residence was the village of Nickern and that his occupation was "Schäfer" (Shepherd).  In Australia he was known as "Schäfer" LIEBELT'.

'Christian and his family were among the pioneer settlers in Hahndorf.  Christian was allocated approx. 4 1/4 acres of land in the new village.  His homestead block was numbered 15 (now 19).  The block was near the northern end of the Main Street (no 106). In addition he received farming blocks numbered 21,25,36, 51c and 66b. (Now 59, 63, 86, 105 and 138).  On September 16, Christian became the registered owner of this land; previously it had been vested in the original trustees of Hahndorf, Christian and Johann Christian Erdmann JAENSCH.  Christian built his humble home of wattle and daub on this property.  It consisted of two rooms and a porch.  In addition, a cellar of similar construction was built somewhat removed from the house.  Portion of this cellar still stands.  In the door of the old homestead was a spear mark where a spear struck into the door after an aboriginal had thrown it at Maria Elisabeth as she fled into the house.  She only just made it to safety.'

'In 1843 Christian had 3 acres of wheat under cultivation as well as 1/2 acre of potatoes.  He owned 6 cattle and 2 pigs.  After their marriage his two sons left the Hahndorf township and took up land at Friedrichstadt.  His daughter Eleonore and her husband Carl FAEHRMANN lived on the old homestead. Originally Christian and his family were members of Pastor Kavel's congregation but in 1851 they joined Pastor FRITZSCHE'congregation.'

​'Christian passed away on October 4, 1858. It appears that he died fairly suddenly as his will, made in German, was only witnessed on October 2 of that year; the witnesses to the will were his sons Gottlieb and Christoph and Reinder van der MOLEN'

'Maria Elisabeth was to have the use of the property, one room in particular, for the remainder of her life.  On her death the property was to go to Johanne Eleonore FAEHRMANN.  The homestead remained in the family until recent times.Christian was buried in the cemetery of the original church where his resting place is marked by a simple tombstone, which is still standing.'

'Inscription on tombstones: Here rests in God, our beloved father, Johann Christian LIEBELT.  He was born on February 2, 1801, and died on October 4, 1858, aged 57 years, 5 months and 2 days.  Jesus, only in your wounds Have I found the sinner's comfort.

 


Edward Otto MÜLLER

Edwin Carl, Hilda & Clarence MUELLER, the 3 children of Hulda KUCHEL & Edwin Otto MUELLER.   

Ronald died the year he was born, 1923. Neither of these 3 children married and Hilda had a son who is the owner of this photographic collection.

 

For more information on the 'Zebra' see my article on Localwiki 'Hahndorf Pioneers, were your ancestors on the 'Zebra'.  

 

Photo courtesy of Val Braendler.  Lt -Rt, Ella Evyline, Alma KUCHEL Mavis and Bill BRAENDLER

 

 

 

'Kuchel' photographs unidentified

   
   
'Grandmother Kuchel' No writing    
       

 

 

9.  Bibliography

This 'LIEBELT Family History'  is still available, written by E.A. WITTWER and F.J. LIEBELT 1975. 'KUCHEL 1838-1970' by Vera SCHWERDT, George HILL & Allan WITTWER, 1970.A College in the Wattles' by Reg BUTLER 1989

 

Fairilie Liebelt, Alan Wittwer, Liebelt Family History, Adelaide, Lutheran Publishing House, 1975.
 

End Notes

[01]  Fairilie Liebelt, Alan Wittwer, Liebelt Family History, Adelaide, Lutheran Publishing House, 1975 page 6  

[02] Ibid, page 44

[03] David Schubert, Kavel's People From Prussia to South Australia, Adelaide, Lutheran Publishing House, 1985, page 166.[04] SAGHS Births Death and Marriages.

[04] South Australian Marriage Registrations 1842-1916

[05]  Vera Schwerdt, George Hill, Alan Wittwer Kuchel 1838-1970, Adelaide, Mitchell Press Pty Ltd, 1970 page  6

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