Agenda
Wiki Spot Board
Agenda
Tuesday, February 16, 2009
6 PM California time (UTC-8)
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Call to Order
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Approval of Minutes
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Nonprofit status update
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Financial Report
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Officer Reports
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Grant update
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Grant project plan
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Board and Officer Elections
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Working Groups Proposal - See: Working Groups Proposal 00.pdf
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Audit Committee
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Any other business
Minutes
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jraller: Howdy!
thelabster: hi!
codetoad: omg hi
thelabster: rofl bbq
thelabster: Vote for me!
jraller: Want me to take notes here in IRC?
thelabster: sure, i think we have a quorum
arlen has joined the channel
jraller: Brent says we have everyone but Ashley
jraller: We started reading off names
jraller: Philip
jraller: here
jraller: Arlen
jraller: Graham
jraller: Evan
jraller: Brent
jraller: Ashley and Paul did not respond
6:05 PM
jraller: Paul just joined
jraller: Lets skip approval of minutes and do that in e-mail in the future
JWokky has joined the channel
jraller: Next chair should work with next secretary
jraller: Subject: non-profit status update
JWokky: Brent suggests minute approval via email.
jraller: We received IRC exemption, but State process is not finished
jraller: Philip submitted paperwork to state
jraller: We are a 501 C 3
JWokky: Correction: IRC above should be IRS
jraller: need a working group to take that process on
jraller: submitted form to secretary of state, but need to investigate more
jraller: We need to call if we don't hear back from them in two weeks
6:10 PM
jraller: We should look up our status on the Franchise Tax Board website
jraller: We need to file a couple of forms by the end of this month like the IRS 990
jraller: Based on our fiscal year
jraller: Moving on to financial report
jraller: $500 in paypal account
jraller: Bank account is opened
jraller: Philip doesn't have access to account yet
jraller: Philip has been working with Paul
jraller: Will get it worked out on Thursday
jraller: Philip was mugged and lost last card
jraller: Philip has checks that are waiting to deposit
jraller: has checked with donors to make sure we are clear to cash them
jraller: Needs to write a check to amit for server lease
jraller: we are using a virtual server
arlen: aside: can we get a donate tab on the hub? i'm not an admin.
jraller: we are not in bad financial situation
MikeIvanov has joined the channel
6:15 PM
jraller: recently reduced our monthly bank account fees (within last month
codetoad: is paul cutting off for other ppl?
jraller: from $24 to $13 per month
thelabster: no
jraller: a little
thelabster: un poquito
jraller: codetoad: did you get my Paypal donation in December?
MikeIvanov: fine here
arlen: no
arlen: how are you connecting, philip?
codetoad: phone
codetoad: it's ok now
codetoad: jraller, yes - need to update donate page & sent receipts
jraller: ok, I feel better knowing it went through
jraller: Back to taking notes
jraller: Financials ok, Philip needs access
jraller: then will wire paypal into bank
jraller: and get online access
jraller: to send checks through website
jraller: and create receipt for donors
jraller: needs to include EIN # and thank you and amount of donation
jraller: a simple pdf file
jraller: needs someone to create that
arlen: i can work on that
arlen: or graham...
JWokky: So can I.
JWokky: Hehe.
JWokky: I was trying to say that I would, but Philip kept talking when I thought he was done.
JWokky: Lots of volunteers.
6:20 PM
jraller: end of finances
jraller: officer reports
jraller: starting with Brent
jraller: has been trying to organize this meeting and working groups proposal
jraller: Philip has been working on things other than technical
jraller: Philip has been focused on a big grant application
jraller: Freeman:
jraller: has been doing patching of system
jraller: systems are patched
jraller: infrastructure
jraller: Paul:
arlen has quit the server saying: Quit: Page closed
jraller: financial report covered some of it
jraller: has had other obligations since Sept
jraller: will not be seeking extension in current position
arlen has joined the channel
jraller: was able to mail out new card to Philip this week
jraller: Paul can cover check to amit if needed
jraller: arlen:
jraller: has been working on grant stuff with Philip and Mike
jraller: Brent called for other reports
jraller: then moved on
jraller: paul has a few minutes left, motioned to move into elections
jraller: Elections!
6:25 PM
jraller: Board elections, are there any nominations
jraller: we suspended rules last year to elect to 1 year terms, but bylaws allow for 1, 2, and 3 year terms
jraller: Grant could change things dramatically in as soon as two months. It will change the nature and responsibility of the board
jraller: — from philip who said we might want to do 1 year again
JWokky: (above was noted by Philip)
jraller: Brent said it sounded ok
jraller: (there needs to be a motion for that)
jraller: Philip moved, Evan seconded motion to suspend bylaws so election is for 1 year terms
jraller: Vote to suspend the bylaws passed unanimously by those present
jraller: call for nominations
jraller: Mike Ivanov self nominated
jraller: Brent nom Philip
jraller: Evan nom Brent
jraller: Philip called for responses to current members, is anyone other than Paul not interested in continuing?
jraller: William wants to be on board as well
jraller: William Lewis
jraller: Brent nominated Jason
6:30 PM
jraller: Arlen nom himself
jraller: nom nom nom
jraller: Evan nom himself
jraller: Graham nom himself
jraller: discussion about Ashley and her potential interest
jraller: 9 members of the board currently
jraller: Philip counts 9 running and 9 seats
jraller: Paul and Ashley out, William and Mike in?
jraller: Brent wants to discuss treasurer
jraller: hasn't heard interest in the position
jraller: need chair secretary and treasurer, but treasurer can't be combined with any other position
jraller: Philip suggested doing board vote now
jraller: Paul leaving meeting to go back to work
jraller: Evan suggested group vote
6:35 PM
jraller: Evan moved for group vote to approve nominated people
jraller: List:
jraller: Philip, Brent, Evan, Graham
jraller: Jason, Arlen, William, Mike
jraller: Arlen
jraller: wait, I listed Arlen twice
jraller: question about split vote with 8 board members
jraller: chair abstains
jraller: nominated folks are:
jraller: Philip, Brent, Evan, Graham, Jason, Arlen, William, Mike
jraller: Voice vote by role call proceeded
jraller: Philip's connection dropped
thelabster: Philip: how do you vote?
jraller: Philip reconnected
6:40 PM
jraller: Vote is unanimous
jraller: officer elections!
jraller: Brent nom Philip to Exec Director, seconded by Arlen
jraller: looking for nom for treasurer
jraller: Brent suggested physical proximity to Philip is good idea for treasurer
jraller: Graham has disconnected
jraller: sirens on someone's connection
jraller: treasurer is temportary
jraller: Graham has reconnected
jraller: Arlen is nominated
jraller: Brent nom to chair
6:45 PM
jraller: secretary and vice chair still open
jraller: Graham nom to chair or vice chair
jraller: Evan nom Jason for secretary
jraller: One nominee for each office
jraller: Philip for Exec Director: taking the vote
jraller: Philip elected Exec Director
jraller: Chair: Brent and Graham
jraller: SPEACHES!
jraller: Graham: would be happy to take seriously any position, but not seeking any particular position
grahamfreeman got dropped by ATT again
jraller: Brent: has been happy serving, starting to get into groove
jraller: Graham got served by AT&T again
jraller: Brent thinks there need to be more accountability for all of us
jraller: Graham is back!
jraller: Vote:
6:50 PM
jraller: ab ab bl bl bl bl bl bl
jraller: Brent with 6 votes and two abstains
jraller: Brent is Chair
jraller: Vice chair, Graham running
jraller: SPEACH!
jraller: will try to grow and expand the org
jraller: Vote: Unanimous
jraller: I think I just got dropped
arlen: yup
thelabster: you did
grahamfreeman: Sounds like it
JWokky: I am temporarily taking over log, as Jason dropped.
JWokky: Graham was elected as vice chair.
jraller: AT&T sucks, Graham was right!
jraller: I'm back in
jraller: Secretary:
JWokky steps back and returns the pen to Jason
6:55 PM
jraller: discussion about secretary being board member or step in person
jraller: If elected I will serve
jraller: Sounds unanimous to me
jraller: Arlen is up for Treasurer
jraller: SPEACH!
jraller: thinks it would be a way to get more involved with wiki spot and to learn more about the financials
jraller: Arlen is elected unanimously
jraller: Congratulations
jraller: Grant update:
jraller: Philip wrote e-mail about strategy and link to video that was made as part of the grant application
jraller: it is a Knight Grant
jraller: we've applied not as wiki spot, but as a particular project
jraller: they want to fund something that is innovative and new
jraller: will change the way communities get and exchange information on a local level
jraller: we've been about communities collaborating
7:00 PM
jraller: but that is more general, but we applied for the grant as localwiki
jraller: premise is mass collaboration, but focus on local stuff
jraller: designed for just local communities
jraller: most of the application is talking about Davis Wiki, but what can be done as a new form of local media
jraller: we know that what we did in Davis works and is powerful
jraller: like knowing local community radio is a good idea, but there is no infrastructure
jraller: massive improvements to the software
jraller: proposing specific project
jraller: we did a good job with DW that proved theory, but we want to make new form of local community media
jraller: slant is toward "here is what we want to do"
jraller: Knight runs their process like a contest
jraller: thousands submit, but they pick the best idea to fund
jraller: strategy was based on researching prior years results
jraller: spoke with people
jraller: think we have good shot at it
7:05 PM
jraller: it would be a big deal if we get it
jraller: ryan is involved, owner of localwiki. domain name
jraller: Knight has dropped focus on news, so we applied this year
jraller: Philip thinks we sent in a strong application
jraller: Philip and Arlen made video
jraller: Harvard Media Lab interviewed Philip
jraller: Later named Davis Wiki world's best local wiki
jraller: feedback that Philip got was from newspapers
arlen: http://www.niemanlab.org/2009/11/welcome-to-davis-calif-six-lessons-from-the-worlds-best-local-wiki/
jraller: they questioned our traffic
jraller: newspapers doubted the figures, but philip sent the figures to the interviewer
jraller: the stats were very impressive at 80,000 visitors per month in a town of 60,000 and 1 in 7 people in town contributes over the course of a year
jraller: video in Davis asked several questions
jraller: Do you know DW
jraller: Do you use the enterprise
jraller: several other questions and some interviews
jraller: it was filmed and edited down to 73
jraller: 20 random people, all used the DW
7:10 PM
jraller: all had good things about it mostly unprompted
jraller: video is password protected
jraller: Philip will share with board, but it isn't for public sharing
jraller: proposal has been sent
jraller: take a step back and what can we dream up to do better
jraller: the idea behind the project is really good
jraller: we are asking for 1,000,000 dollars
jraller: "obviously that is a shit load of money" — Philip
jraller: but over two years that isn't a lot
jraller: Philip thinks that this year they will be giving out sums around that amount
jraller: pitched as "the project"
jraller: they want to fund something that will improve news in a local community built on open source
jraller: task was to see Davis wiki as proof of concept and base to built on
7:15 PM
jraller: experiment with new models for creating wikis
jraller: want to experiment with outreach
jraller: structure of proposal is:
jraller: software and technical
jraller: rewrite of software (include semantic wiki and other features)
jraller: built around GIS, mapping, time, local needs
jraller: read the wiki for news and things that happen
jraller: pages have chronology
jraller: all this with the aim of building something that is the best for a local community to use
jraller: coordinate with pilot communities
jraller: select 5 communities and work with them extensively
jraller: steward them through the process
jraller: taking outreach to a much higher level
jraller: Evan asked for clarification
jraller: on statement of direction
jraller: Evan asked for specifics about outreach, call center, or what?
jraller: Philip said there is vagueness
jraller: intentional, due to several reasons
jraller: need to pick the testbed communities
jraller: pick people in each community
7:20 PM
jraller: then figure it out based on those people
jraller: talk to them and figure out how to help them and build corpus of educational material
jraller: we need more successful examples
jraller: Mike Ivanov has left the conference
7:25 PM
jraller: Philip talked about funding models
jraller: incentivize the boring things
jraller: "Make good edits in order to earn revert points" — Jason
jraller: Philip will send out the full proposal to the board
jraller: "The video is REALLY worth watching" — Jason
7:30 PM
jraller: should know by mid march if we get the grant
arlen: (thanks jason)
jraller: Philip discussed more of the specifics of the process
jraller: Philip discussed our risks with the grant. ways to not get it
7:35 PM
jraller: Philip thinks we've addressed those items that we can control, we can't control a better application coming in from somewhere else
jraller: Graham says that sounds great
jraller: sorry brent says, not graham
jraller: open for questions
jraller: Evan says he doesn't think there is a conflict of interests with his business contacts with Knight Ritter
jraller: and two of his board members might have contacts there
jraller: raised issue of perception of secrecy
7:40 PM
jraller: Philip said they didn't know which approach to take
jraller: a lot of talking
jraller: 100 hours or more
jraller: level of work and strategy meant that the more people the lower of chance of getting the grant
jraller: this is a proposal, not a fiat action
jraller: as a proposal a smaller working group made sense
jraller: It came together as a discussion about rewrite, and awareness of the Knight grant
jraller: viewed it as separate from role of board
grahamfreeman: I'll voice this in turn, but a $1M grant app for an org with a <$1K annual budget is _absolutely_ appropriate for Board involvement
jraller: wasn't an issue of secrecy, wasn't sure what they were doing until it was underway
thelabster: I agree graham.
JWokky: About to touch on the difference between secret vs. closed and try to connect thoughts between everybody so we are all going in the same direction.
jraller: Philip quoted "you should think about what you can do right now, not in the future"
7:45 PM
jraller: Evan discusses impact of the grant as a change in plans for other board members
jraller: Graham is for world changing, but it is a radical change in the organization's direction and is a board concern
jraller: during the initial stage isn't committing the org, but board involvement should take place
jraller: sees that too many cooks in the kitchen isn't good either
jraller: Philip responded
7:50 PM
jraller: Philip says he can take it to heart based on the comments
jraller: the reality is that the timeline was short
jraller: Philip says he discussed this at the last board meeting in general terms
jraller: we wrote the initial proposal about a month ago
jraller: then we heard from them about three weeks ago that we needed to write a full proposal
jraller: they then went and made the video and started writing
7:55 PM
jraller: Even responded that Philip did interact with him about this even given the short time frame
jraller: Executive Director position is to do things like this
8:00 PM
jraller: Jason Evan and Graham chimed in saying that this was a big move, but it got done
jraller: Brent called for us to move on as it has been an hour
jraller: Brent segued into working groups as more functional and productive
jraller: I wasn't able to read it yet
jraller: several people said they had read it
jraller: Graham hadn't read it
jraller: committees as working groups
8:05 PM
jraller: board members on it, but can invite others to join in the effort
jraller: one would be for grants
jraller: Brent asked what kinds of tasks
jraller: One would be for technology
jraller: one would be system administration
jraller: that has been Philip, Graham and Amit
jraller: One would be community outreach
jraller: fundraising
jraller: budget
jraller: budget and paperwork
jraller: so we will know who is responsible
jraller: monthly reports due back even if (no change)
jraller: helps things not be dropped
jraller: also serve as outreach to involve people who aren't on the board
jraller: Evan discussed bylaws version and what would need to be expanded
jraller: allow non-members to participate on those working groups
jraller: Brent said that system admin should be able to make purchase decisions under $750
jraller: qualified people making decision, and then letting the board know what is going on
jraller: committee members would be vetted by the board
8:10 PM
jraller: Philip had comments about the particular groups
jraller: The system admin group is too much red tape, but it could make people feel more empowered
jraller: Brent said system admin might be responsibility of Exec Director
jraller: Evan said we need thank you letter to Amit
jraller: Evan talked about creating titles as opposed to recognizing what already exists
codetoad has quit the server saying: Ping timeout: 245 seconds
grahamfreeman raises his hand to speak
8:15 PM
jraller is eating
jraller is back to note taking
8:20 PM
jraller: Graham is talking about Carver's policy governance
jraller: Brent pointed out we don't have staff, just volunteers
jraller: Philip: talked about working groups reporting to Exec Director not board, and Exec Director reports to board
jraller: Philip asked what action are we going to take right now
8:30 PM
jraller: Brent will send out second draft of proposal
jraller: Brent asked for comments
jraller: Dog barked
jraller: appoint audit committee
jraller: William and Evan nominated
jraller: and Graham
codetoad has joined the channel
jraller: nominations approved by voice vote
jraller: Philip noted potentially another grant application coming up
jraller: next week, but individuals apply, not organizations
8:35 PM
jraller: they want to find people for community information projects
jraller: maybe $30,000 per year
jraller: will reuse same materials from localwiki proposal
jraller: Graham noted intellectual property needs to belong to Wiki Spot as a result of that grant
jraller: Evan brought up motion to send letter to Amit thanking him for his efforts
jraller: seconded
grahamfreeman: jraller: Clarification: I'm not asking that it be owned by Wiki Spot, but rather than Wiki Spot share unrestricted usage of it
jraller: passed
jraller: ok, that will be in the notes
jraller: evan will do it?
jraller: meeting is adjourned at 8:38pm